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Jennybach
wrote:
Yesterday
Thank you @DonFletcher . I will check that out and let the photographer know too. We were both wondering.
Pseudocheirus peregrinus
DonFletcher
wrote:
Yesterday
@JRCNM, ecology is full of stories like that. People rarely know what the wildlife situation was before they were personally aware of it. But even here in Canberra there have been many astonishing changes.
Regarding the conservation culling, there is no argument among ecologists. Among the minority of members of the public who object to the conservation cull in Canberra, the few who articulate their reason for objecting, do so on philosophical or quasi-religious grounds. In general these arguments place kangaroos and a few other mammal species in a higher category than other species, such that (for those people) it is ethically better to have other species go extinct (some refer to them as 'non-sentient' species, by which they mean all reptiles, birds, fish, mammals with pointy heads, and plants) than to kill an individual kangaroo or other members of the more desirable mammal species. There is no chance of finding common ground between this philosophy and the biodiversity conservation agreements and laws adopted by Australian governments, which seek to conserve the maximum number of species.
These arguments have been set out best in the communications from members of the Compassionate Conservation movement (mostly based in Uni of Technology, Sydney) and from their critics. (I regard CC as just Animal Lib presented more cleverly, although they deny the similarity). By comparison, the local Save Canberra Kangaroos group is less articulate, and much less consistent, so it is more difficult to discern their actual reasoning. In some groups there is also deliberate misrepresentation, which muddies the waters when you are trying to discern motivation and reasoning
The bottom line is that because the culling disagreement is science V a philosophical belief, it is not likely to be much affected by evidence, such as the history of kangaroos on the Limestone Plains. However, in any case the anti-cull people have denied such statements. Also they have repeatedly claimed that kangaroos were far more abundant when Europeans arrived, than they are now. What they claim is dramatically true of the small macropods such as Bettongs, Potoroos, Hare Wallabies, etc, and various other mammals in the 0.5 to 5.0 kg weight range. But cull protestors are relatively unconcerned about those types of species.
Regarding the conservation culling, there is no argument among ecologists. Among the minority of members of the public who object to the conservation cull in Canberra, the few who articulate their reason for objecting, do so on philosophical or quasi-religious grounds. In general these arguments place kangaroos and a few other mammal species in a higher category than other species, such that (for those people) it is ethically better to have other species go extinct (some refer to them as 'non-sentient' species, by which they mean all reptiles, birds, fish, mammals with pointy heads, and plants) than to kill an individual kangaroo or other members of the more desirable mammal species. There is no chance of finding common ground between this philosophy and the biodiversity conservation agreements and laws adopted by Australian governments, which seek to conserve the maximum number of species.
These arguments have been set out best in the communications from members of the Compassionate Conservation movement (mostly based in Uni of Technology, Sydney) and from their critics. (I regard CC as just Animal Lib presented more cleverly, although they deny the similarity). By comparison, the local Save Canberra Kangaroos group is less articulate, and much less consistent, so it is more difficult to discern their actual reasoning. In some groups there is also deliberate misrepresentation, which muddies the waters when you are trying to discern motivation and reasoning
The bottom line is that because the culling disagreement is science V a philosophical belief, it is not likely to be much affected by evidence, such as the history of kangaroos on the Limestone Plains. However, in any case the anti-cull people have denied such statements. Also they have repeatedly claimed that kangaroos were far more abundant when Europeans arrived, than they are now. What they claim is dramatically true of the small macropods such as Bettongs, Potoroos, Hare Wallabies, etc, and various other mammals in the 0.5 to 5.0 kg weight range. But cull protestors are relatively unconcerned about those types of species.
Wallabia bicolor
DonFletcher
wrote:
Yesterday
Hi @Jennybach, if you ask Professor Google they can show you artificial 'dreys' made from things like fern hanging baskets, which this species will inhabit.
Pseudocheirus peregrinus
yellowboxwoodland
wrote:
Yesterday
They are screen shots from video taken by voopeak solar integrated hunting camera tc08 bought on Amazon.
Thanks for the advice re poison.
Thanks for the advice re poison.
Rattus rattus
JRCNM
wrote:
Yesterday
That's all a remarkable story! There being no EGKangaroos in the Canberra area until 'recently' is a pretty astonishing fact that I doubt most people know. I assumed they were always present. It's interesting how this should/could play in the arguments for and against culling in the ACT.
Wallabia bicolor
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